if that jvv.bravehost.com site is right, a lot of those site have been hacked... didn't even know that so many different sites exist. bethel strikes back?
Superfine Apostate
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Warning: JWMATCH.COM has been hacked
by What-A-Coincidence ine-mail i received from [email protected] today.... .
i go to jwmatch.com today and get this message.
now i gotta wait to chat with my jw honnies.
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What if God IS a farce?
by LouBelle inthat would really rock my world as i know it.
after i initially left the jws' i did question the whole "is there a god"" especially when you look around and see all the atrocities - the sick sick things happening in your own back yard.then i put it out of my mind and carried on believing in a god.. right now i choose to believe in a god, whether that god be jesus, jehovah, buddha, allah, shiva, it doesn't matter - i'm happy with the idea that there is a spiritual & powerful someone running things.however lately i've been questioning again - so many posters on here that are atheists really make good arguments & i can't reason my way out of it.. why does god keep so quiet?
why not just let us know - tadaaaa i'm here.
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> Then all men will have to acknowledge that their actions
> - good and bad - are completely their own responsibility.
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What if God IS a farce?
by LouBelle inthat would really rock my world as i know it.
after i initially left the jws' i did question the whole "is there a god"" especially when you look around and see all the atrocities - the sick sick things happening in your own back yard.then i put it out of my mind and carried on believing in a god.. right now i choose to believe in a god, whether that god be jesus, jehovah, buddha, allah, shiva, it doesn't matter - i'm happy with the idea that there is a spiritual & powerful someone running things.however lately i've been questioning again - so many posters on here that are atheists really make good arguments & i can't reason my way out of it.. why does god keep so quiet?
why not just let us know - tadaaaa i'm here.
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> Outside of Time they are meaningless.
time is just a measure for different states of the universe as an entity. there can't be a movement, a making, even a thought without time. -
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What if God IS a farce?
by LouBelle inthat would really rock my world as i know it.
after i initially left the jws' i did question the whole "is there a god"" especially when you look around and see all the atrocities - the sick sick things happening in your own back yard.then i put it out of my mind and carried on believing in a god.. right now i choose to believe in a god, whether that god be jesus, jehovah, buddha, allah, shiva, it doesn't matter - i'm happy with the idea that there is a spiritual & powerful someone running things.however lately i've been questioning again - so many posters on here that are atheists really make good arguments & i can't reason my way out of it.. why does god keep so quiet?
why not just let us know - tadaaaa i'm here.
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loubelle, while it's non of my business what you believe and i don't gain anything by attempting to "convert" anybody to atheism, i want to add this:
you say, you'd chose the label "atheist", if you'd be sure that there is no god. well, i felt that way for quite some time too. i was comfortable with the term "agnostic" though. but as i always try to point out, atheism does not necessarily say with a 100% security that there is no such thing as gods. it sufficient to say: "there's just no reason/evidence/proof to believe in a god" to be an atheist. in fact, atheism is agnosticism thought to the end.
it's clear that the judeo-christo-muslim gods along with most other gods described in books are impossible. it's a 100% sure they don't exist. but you could always make up a god that can't be disproven. like there's no 100% proof that there's no chinese teapot orbiting the moon. the question is, what good is a made up god? -
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Bad jw e-mail of the week ***Warning: Hurl Alert***
by RisingEagle in(this is an e-mail making the rounds of jdubs email lists.
my apologies for not having eye and mind bleach available for the after effects) .
vs. holy bible.
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Whats the worst thing you have heard from the stage???
by karter inat a circuit assembly the co stopped his talk and asked the attendants to remove a crying baby and his mother .. she go up walked out the back started crying as she was studying she never came back.. saved by the co i say..
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Superfine Apostate
we had one old confused guy on the stage repeating several times: "women are a tool of the devil!"
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Is the "My Book of Bible Stories" appropriate reading for Little Ones?
by Princess Daisy Boo inmy little boy, aged 4 1/2 loves his bedtime stories, and also loves "jesus stories" as he calls them... .
now, i have never gotten around to going to a book store and actually buying a childrens bible story book from the shops (yes...i still have a bit of a mental block and some deep seated issues about any religious literature).
my mom gave my kids a copy of the bible story book, as well as listening to the great teacher (the new soft cover book - think it is called that?
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i recommend the brick testament
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Pentecostals convert 20% of population in Guatemala. How do they preach?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe christian science monitor reported today that 20% of the population in guatemala is converting to pentecostalism.
with a population near 13,000,000,that would mean a membership of 2.6 million people.. how do pentecostals convert so many people?
what are their preaching methods?.
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Superfine Apostate
it wasn't until my first journey to latin america that i saw that all the exclusiveness the JWs proclaim to have is just lies.
in latin america, everybody uses "jehovah". "jehovah" is also used in most of the spanish translations of the bible. (we were always told, JWs were the only ones who'd use the name of god). on the streets you can find loads of different missionaries advertising god's kingdom. (we were always told, JWs were the only ones advertising god's kingdom). i've met pentecostals and the likes going d2d while we did the same. i met them going to the KH, while they did the same. i always closed the car windows on any traffic light, so they would not place tracts on me... lol.. -
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Faulty Arguments
by Superfine Apostate inapart from "ad hominem", there are a bunch of other "arguments" that are used widely, but actually don't hold any value.. .
one i find very often to be used is "tu quoque" (you too!).
like in "yes, i believe without evidence, but you believe too!"..
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apart from "ad hominem", there are a bunch of other "arguments" that are used widely, but actually don't hold any value.
one i find very often to be used is "tu quoque" (you too!). like in "yes, i believe without evidence, but you believe too!".
another one is "ad populum": "most people believe in a god, nuff said".
"ad ignorantiam" is probably an all time favourite: "you can't prove god does NOT exist".
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The Biblical Flood Thoroughly Trashed
by Farkel inthere are many new ones on this board who may not have seen this.
my old friend alan feurerbacher who has done an unbelievable amount of scholarly research on many subjects must have spent about two or three thousand years researching virtually every aspect of the biblical flood story, and am providing the link to this subject (together with links to other excellent work by him).
it's long and detailed and definitely not for those who get bored with more than four sentences of information and sound bites.
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he's just in the struggle we all went through becoming atheists.. lol